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July 28th, 2025

Episode #30, with Michele Dunne, on following St. Francis and Jesus on the path of Gospel nonviolence

This week on “The Nonviolent Jesus Podcast,” John Dear speaks with Michele Dunne, director of the Franciscan Action Network, a national mobilization of lay Franciscans working for justice and peace. Michele is a professed Secular Franciscan (there are over 200,000 in the world) who has had a long career as a diplomat in the Middle East and then a scholarly researcher focused on the Middle East and U.S. foreign policy.
 
From 2006 until 2021, she headed programs focused on peace, human rights, and democracy in the Middle East at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the Atlantic Council. Over the years, she’s been a regular commentator on NPR’s “All Things Considered.” Before that, she served for nearly 20 years in the U.S. State Department, including assignments in Jerusalem and Cairo. She holds a Ph.D. from Georgetown University and lives in Washington DC with her husband.
 
“At the Franciscan Action Network, we have 17,000 individual members, 50 Franciscan religious communities, and 30 Franciscan Justice Circles in the U.S. We deal with justice issues that are related to immigration, the treatment of migrants and refugees in the US, poverty, and economic injustice, as well as teach nonviolence and advocate for the U.S. to play a peaceful role in the world. The Franciscan Action Network helps me to express my Franciscanism on issues I care about.
 
“Today, we’ve got this broken relationship between humanity and creation.
 
But Franciscans have been celebrating the 800th anniversary of the Canticle of the Sun, St. Francis’ poem/prayer to ‘Brother Sun, Sister Moon.’ St. Francis had an incredible kinship with all humanity, with all humans as brothers and sisters, and with all creation. We all need to find that kinship today.
 
“A sense of purpose keeps me going,” she says. “I can’t take everything in all at once, so I stay focused on doing the next right thing, and ask ‘What is God’s will for me? What is mine to do?’ We all need to show up and find what’s ours to do and do it.” Check it out and be inspired. And visit www.franciscanaction.org

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The Nonviolent Jesus Podcast welcomes John Dear! For more information, visit here.

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July 21, 2025

#29, Rev. Charles McCarthy on nonviolence and Christlike love

This week on “The Nonviolent Jesus Podcast,” John Dear speaks with Rev. Charles McCarthy, one of the world’s great teachers of Christian nonviolence.
Rev. McCarthy is a priest of one of the Eastern Catholic Churches, Byzantine-Melkite, in communion with the Bishop of Rome. He has been a Catholic priest for forty years. He has Masters Degrees in English and in Theology from Notre Dame, and earned his Doctorate in Jurisprudence from Boston College Law School. He was married for 53 years to Mary Margaret McCarthy, and they have 13 children and 23 grandchildren. (The cure of their daughter, Teresa Benedicta, was the official miracle for the canonization of Sr. Teresa Benedicta, known as, St. Edith Stein.)
 
Charles McCarthy taught at the University of Notre Dame where he founded and was the original Director of The Program for the Study and Practice of Nonviolent Conflict Resolution. He served for many years at St. Gregory the Theologian Byzantine-Melkite Catholic Seminary. For over fifty years he directed retreats and spoke at conferences throughout the world on the Nonviolent Jesus.
 
John begins by asking him to define “nonviolence.” Charlie McCarthy said: “Nonviolence is nonviolent love of friends and enemies modeled by Jesus in the Gospels. Nonviolence asks, ‘Is the action that you are doing imbued with Christlike, nonviolent love?’ Any action without love is nothing at all. If our actions are not motivated by and imbued with Christlike love, they are not going to be effective in countering evil and death.
 
“Jesus is nonviolent because God is nonviolent,” he continues. “Jesus’ purpose is to reveal to us how to love as God loves us because God is Love. Jesus wants us to be at one with God. The words, deeds, and spirit of Jesus in the gospel reveal the love of God
 
“I’ve never been able to get beyond the fact that when the will of God is known, what follows immediately is an imperative to live it, embrace it, and follow it. Jesus comes and reveals the will of the Father, which is to love as God loves, even under the most horrendous conditions, as he shows as he undergoes his death.”
 
“It is important to nurture the capacity of empathy beyond our friends, family, nation, to every human being so that we learn to love the one that does not love you, that is hostile to you. Love your enemies is an authentic teaching of Jesus. That’s what he wants us to do. That’s nonviolence.” Check it out and be inspired! For further information, see: www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.org

Next week…

The Nonviolent Jesus Podcast welcomes Michele Dunne! For more information, visit here.

Upcoming Zoom Programs:

 “The Bible as a Call Out of Empire into the God of Peace” with Wes Howard-Brook

Saturday August 2, 2025

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“From Violence to Wholeness: The Spirituality and Practice of Active Nonviolence” with Dr. Ken Butigan

Saturday September 27, 2025

11 am Pacific, 12 PM Mountain, 1 PM Central, 2 PM Eastern

 

“Hope in the Face of a Fascist Threat”
Sr. Simone Campbell

Saturday October 25, 2025

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“Exploring the Mystical Dimensions of the Peace of God That Surpasses Understanding” With Jim Finley

Saturday November 15, 2025

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Elizabeth Johnson in a Special Christmas Conversation with John Dear on “The Theology of the Incarnation of the God of Peace in a World of War”

Saturday December 20, 2025

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John Dear’s new book now available

“The Gospel of Peace:
Reading Matthew, Mark & Luke
from the Perspective of Nonviolence”

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“The wolf shall live with the lamb; the leopard shall lie down with the kid. The calf and the lion will feed together, and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put its hand on the
adder’s den. They will not hurt or destroy on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the God of peace as the waters cover the sea.”

(Isaiah 11:6–9)

Quote for the Day: 

“I am called in the Word of God — as is everyone else — to the vocation of being human, nothing more and nothing less … To be a Christian
means to be called to be an exemplary human being. And to be a Christian categorically does not mean being religious. Indeed, all religious versions of the gospel are profanities. In the face of death, live humanly. In the middle of chaos, celebrate the Word. Amidst Babel, speak the truth. Confront the noise and verbiage and falsehood of death with the truth and potency and efficacy of the Word of God. Know the Word, teach the Word, nurture the Word, preach the Word, define the Word, incarnate the Word, do the Word, live the Word. And more than that, in the Word of God, expose death and all death’s works and wiles, rebuke lies,
cast out demons, exorcise, cleanse the possessed,
raise those who are dead in mind and conscience.”

–William Stringfellow

July 28, 2025

Dear friends, Blessings of Christ’s Peace!

     Scripture scholar Wes Howard-Brook’s commentary on the entire Bible, Come Out My People!: God’s Call out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond 
*(Orbis Books) is a masterpiece of scholarship and political commentary. He walks us through the entire Hebrew Bible and its “war of myths” leading up to the nonviolent Jesus, St. Paul’s writings, and the concluding book of Revelation to see the movement of God through history as a call to humanity out of empire into God’s realm of peace, love, and justice. 

     The cumulative effect is nothing less than a revelation. It’s as if we’ve missed the whole point of the Bible, using it to support our wars, injustices, violence, and empires. Instead, the Bible is a summons to cut all ties with empire — with all the political structures and systems which claim God’s power — and to enter the freedom, nonviolence, peace, and justice of God and God’s creation. 

     Wes contends that there are two fundamental religions throughout history — the religion of empire and the religion of creation. (I might have called them the religion of violence and war vs. the religion of nonviolence and peace.) In this sweeping and transformative approach to biblical interpretation, he presents the Bible as a struggle between these two competing “religions.”